Taking Incremental Steps Together….

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Christine and Stephanie

Welcome! We are a couple of curvy, smart, curious, women trying to strike a balance between career, family and self-care while striving to leave the planet better off than the way we found it. It’s a challenge! We are learning we can’t do it alone. We need each other – all of us.  So every couple of weeks we are going to check in with each other on our health goals and challenge each other to find a new ways to leave a lighter footprint.

Join us as we share our journey each week on the Incremental Steps Podcast and we publish what we learn here. See what we love, what we would do differently and what keeps each of us going.


Christine and Stephanie


Episode 20, June 14, 2020 Atlanta Making the News, Solar Energy Blues

Christine and Stephanie recount the madness of chaotic elections, the death of another man of color in Atlanta, our explorations into solar energy solutions and, as always, what’s going on in our gardens – including hummingbirds and foxes.

Episode 19, June 7, 2020 Activism Stamina and Solar Power

#BLM Demonstration in Duluth, GA June 5, 2020

Stephanie and Christine marvel at the courageous work of young people in our community and around the world. We discuss the stamina needed to stay on the path to sustain the social justice progress that has been achieved this week – especially for white women unaccustomed to this work. We also start a new long-term solar environmental challenge. Stephanie offers a review of tooth powder, Christine listeners to help with an environmental action for migrating birds and closes us out with a poem she authored.

Episode 18, May 31, 2020 Having the Courage to Stay in the Conversation


We are united to condemn the tragic murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor and many many others at the hands of police. This is a continuation of the systemic racism pervasive in our country since its inception and we are committed to standing against racism in all its forms.
We believe that to be silent is to be complicit.
We believe that Black lives matter.
We believe that Black lives are more important than property.
We believe that we have a responsibility to use our platforms to speak out against this injustice whenever and wherever we are witness to it.

If you are able, please consider giving to:

**George Floyd Memorial Fund: https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloydMinnesota Freedom Fund: https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/Black Visions Collective: https://www.blackvisionsmn.org/Campaign Zero: https://www.joincampaignzero.org/Black Lives Matter: https://www.Blacklivesmatter.comMinneapolis NAACP Branch: https://www.paypal.me/mplsnaacp4050B

Please also consider :

**Texting “Floyd” to 55156 to sign a petition a demand justice for George Floyd.

Signing up at Color of Change: https://colorofchange.org/ to be notified of more opportunities to take action.

Christine and Stephanie hit the pause button the regular environmental challenge agenda to reflect on the racial turmoil across the country and how we, as white women can show up for people of color in a way that is de-centered, and meaningful. How and when do you stay in conversation with other white people in order to continue the work of dismantling systemic racism? How do you make the practice of dismantling systemic racism similar to the practice of brushing your teeth?

Episode 17, May 24, 2020 Advocacy in Incremental Steps – Let’s break this down

Tooth powder experiments

This week Stephanie and Christine get on their soapboxes a little bit about advocacy and being willing to step out of your comfort zone just a tiny bit to take an incremental step toward effecting the changes that you believe are necessary to move forward. Also – Stephanie makes tooth powder and Christine celebrate’s her youngest daughter’s graduation from high school.

Episode 16, May 17, 2020 Exploring the Outdoors with Patience, Kindness and Physical Distance

In this episode Christine and Stephanie take a step back to explore the need for rest and relaxation as we begin to open up the country again. How do we go on vacation while still respecting the environment and each other? How do we act in harmony with the communities/State Parks/National Parks we visit? Christine recommends some ways to follow legislation and stay engaged on issues we care about. Stephanie offers up a practice for cultivating patience.

Episode 15, May 11, 2020 Mother’s Day, Activism and Action

Steph’s Keyhole Garden

This week Christine and Stephanie recount their Mother’s Day, while also calling the name of Maud Arbery and remembering (sort of) Julie Ward Howe and her vision of “Mothers’ Day”. They look at the national discourse around social distancing and returning to work. They talk about the systems in place that make the virus more dangerous for some communities than others and how to use activism and privilege to effect change.  This week’s challenge is composting and looking ahead the plan is to come back  next week with DIY solutions that are accessible to everyone.

Episode 14, May 3, 2020 Wait, What Day Is It? And A Reintroduction

Stephanie and Christine reintroduce themselves, talk about spring in GA, incremental steps to make a difference, self-care and scheduling.

Episode 13 April 27, 2020 Pandemic Pondering

Irises in Christine’s garden

In this episode, we take a look at the nature of trauma why we can’t remember what day it is. We pause to notice the changes – both good and bad – that quarantine life brought us. What incremental steps have we taken to manage in this environment and what to do we want to take with us when this is over?

Episode 12 April 21, 2020 Pandemics, Practices and Perks

We checked in and had a conversation about how it was going in the world of social distancing in regards to the environment, jobs, routines, bidets and poetry not porn.   We talked about self-care & challenges until the next time we chat.   Join us for some tea & conversation. 

Episode 11 March 30, 2020 Seeing the Good

In this episode Christine and Stephanie practice physical and social separation podcasting from home. They talk about finding the silver linings in time spent in isolation. Christine reports that her eco-friendly laundry sheets were a hit and Stephanie has a successful test of ACV hair rinses and a new brand of shampoo bars. The next challenge is really leaning in to being a good steward of existing resources at home rather than go to the store.

Episode 10 March 5, 2020 – Preparedness

Stephanie & Christine talk about the challenges of switches to more sustainable products, the outbreak of the Coronavirus and proactive herbal solutions to boost your immune system and more.

Episode 9 February 19, 2020 – Art, Activism and Packaging

In this episode, Stephanie recounts a Valentine’s Day Hazmat incidence. Christine has a minor meltdown over an art show she’s participating in and we talk about art and activism.   Steph and Christine simultaneously decry the pollution of the fashion industry while fan-girling over “Next in Fashion” on Netflix, and discuss the merits of mail order laundry detergent and wool dryer balls. Stephanie commits to reducing packaging for our planet and we talk about juggling it all. The next challenge is dish-washing products and bar soap shampoo.

Episode 8 February 2, 2020 Whistle Pig Day!

Christine and Steph out hiking and thinking about Whistle Pigs.

Join us for a conversation on the way home from a hike! We’re talking Spring, Whistle Pigs, Imbolc and more.  Christine shares her pride in seeing her daughter fight for trees and Stephanie reports on the relative merits of toothpaste tablets. Laundry solutions are the next challenge.

Episode 7 New Decade New Rules

We are kicking off the new year with a more reasonable set of goals and renewed passion for doing what we can to save the planet. Stephanie has the challenge of trying toothpaste tablets.


Episode 6 Unplugging, Our 20 Things, and Meditation

Episode 5 Travel, Transit, Composting and New Goals

Episode 4 Ranting, Food Storage and Resetting Again

Episode 3 Food Storage and So Much Plastic – Microgoals

Episode 2 Water Bottles and Setting Ourselves Up For Success

Episode 1 Intros and Metal Straws